debating a Christian, trying to convince him he's seeing what he wants to see in the scripture, and how unethical substitutional atonement is, any god requiring a sacrifice before forgiving is not "practicing what they preach", we're instructed to turn the other cheek, but god will leave people in hell for an eternity?
it's weird, he's quite a fundamentalist but believes in reincarnation?! One lifetime as a Christian is enough to save from the aforementioned eternity. I thought getting a Christian to believe in many lives would be the start of free thought.
He believes in a character, a being. Elvis was a character, and a being, so Jesus was just another person on earth. I believe in characters, characters that "spoke for god", that walked on water, that meditated on water, that tamed wild animals, could be in two places at once. I just take all of them with a pinch of salt.
We should be discussing methods, I'm sure we all understand the right stuff to be doing, "be nice", forgive, love. That's the easy part, but how?
He'd bring up his magical character when asked, I think. I'd say "by training my attention span" through simple daily meditation, all else follows from that. I think.
He's a nice guy, he tolerates my occasional abusive tone and raised voice, I don't go gentle, "sharpen your axe!!" is about the worse of my ad hominem, reffering to sharpening his mind with meditation before he, for instance, watches "end times" shrilling on YouTube. A lumberjack that never sharpens his axe doesn't chop down many trees.
I could be wrong. but I enjoy the debate.